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Robots and Chips's avatar

Exceptional deep-dive into Paychex! Your analysis of the PEO/HCM industry dynamics is incredibly thorough. While you focus on Paychex and ADP as the top two players, it's worth noting that Insperity—another significnt PEO competitor—is facing many of the same headwinds you identified. Your points about recession risk, the need for acquisitions (Paychex/Paycor), and moderate growth challenges resonate strongly with Insperity's current situation. They're experiencing modest worksite employee growth and profitability pressures in 2025, which suggests the industry consolidation you describe is creating real competitive stress beyond just the top two players. Your observation that ROIC (16.3%) is a better predictor of long-term returns than ROE (41%) is particularly insightful for evaluating PEO companies where 'float' can artificially inflate ROE. Insperity's working toward 2026 improvement, but your DCF framework shows how challenging it is to justify premium valuations in this mature, single-digit organic growth industry.

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Phaetrix's avatar

Solid list! Which mistake do you think hurts new investors most — chasing trends, averaging down too early, or focusing only on value/growth?

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